December 19th 2017


 Clerk: Jeff Downham,


Tel No 07795484126

 Thursby Parish Council meeting

Tuesday 19th December


 Minutes of meeting

 Council Members: Cllrs Wendy Bowe (Chair), Ray McCreadie, Peter Hunter, Myra Armstrong, Chris Haig-Prothero, Tom Girdwood.

 Cumbria County Council: Duncan Fairbairn

Allerdale Borough Councillor: Pat McDonald

 Members of the public: One

 Parish Clerk: Jeff Downham

 151/12/17 – Apologies – Cllrs Ken Peerless and David Pattinson.

 152/12/17 – Declaration of interests – None

 153/12/17 – Dispensations – None

 154/12/17 – Minutes of previous meeting – The minutes of the meeting of the 21st November 2017 were discussed and the council resolved to sign them as being a true record of the meeting.

 155/12/17 – Chairs announcements – The chair reminded councillors of the ongoing consultation into the Allerdale Local Plan and circulated a copy of the fed back form.

156/12/17 – Public participation: – The condition of the notice board in the village was raised stating that it was difficult to read the notices, the condition of the inside of the old phone box housing the defibrillator, with a member of the public stating that they had cleaned it out, floodwater running off the field behind School Road through a resident’s garden and onto the road, and the lack of any grit bins on Greenwood Close. The condition of the pathway opposite the green and a suggestion of more defibrillator training for the community. The council resolved to put grit bins and the notice boards on the next agenda, and to advertise in the Throstle should anyone wish to be trained in the use of the defibrillator to forward their names to the clerk.

157/12/17 – Reports from: –

Cumbria County Council – Cllr Fairbairn reported that the gullies in Shawk Crescent and School Road were the responsibility of Home Group and not CCC. A discussion took place regarding the location and condition of other gullies in the parish, with a suggestion by Cllr Fairbairn that contact be made with the Highways Engineer regarding this. He stated that the removal of the exemption for food retailers at the Low Whinnow layby on the A596 was now complete, and that the warning signs at Micklethwaite were not working with a new maintenance contract being looked at for all similar signs across the county. A question was raised regarding the closure of the layby on Low Road and Cllr Fairbairn stated that this was on going.

Allerdale Borough Council– Cllr MacDonald reminded councillors that the Allerdale Local Plan part 2 was still out for consultation with the closing date being the 22nd January.

 158/12/17 – Grounds Maintenance Contract – Councillors considered the 6 tenders supplied and resolved to award the contract for 2018-20 to ISS

 159/12/17 – Budget 2018/19 – A proposed budget for the 2018/19 financial year was discussed and councillors resolved not to raise the council precept and agreed the budget for the next financial year.

160/11/17 – Gully identification – Maps of the parish were circulated, and councillors agreed to identify locations of the gullies and forward the maps to the clerk, for forwarding onto the County Council.

161/12/17 – Restoration of Cumberland cast iron finger posts – The council resolved to identify any signs suitable for restoration in the parish.

 162/12/17 – Clerks report on actions not covered on the agenda –

Actions from previous meeting: –

Minute ref 128/11/17 – Letter of thanks sent to head of Environmental Services re street scene officer. No fly posting notice attached to telephone kiosk housing the defibrillator, and arrangements made for infills at the bottom of the kiosk to be filled. Faulty streetlights reported to CCC, together with overhanging trees on Matty Lonning and Curthwaite Road. Requested a copy of the A595 safety study report.

Minute ref 133/11/17 – Arranged for the Thursby bus shelter repairs.

Minute ref 134/11/17 – Requested price for additional street signage.

Clerks update: –

Made the arrangements for the installation of the new Nealhouse bus shelter following approval from Connect Roads and CCC, which is now in position. The price for the shelter included purchase and in installation on the existing ground base, but Councillors may want to consider a hard standing. The asset register has been amended to reflect the new shelter and been added to the insurance, with no additional premium to pay. Councillors resolved to have a hard standing laid at the site of the Nealhouse bus shelter.

Contact made with both highways and Allerdale BC regarding the cost of an additional street light on School Road, near to the entrance with Curthwaite Road. This sequence of streetlighting is owned and maintained by Allerdale Borough Council, having spoken to the supervisor in the lighting dept. at Allerdale he informs me that not only are they not funding any additional streetlighting, they are not looking to take on any additional maintenance should the parish council wish to fund the installation of a streetlight at this location.

What he did say is that they are looking to offload their streetlighting responsibilities to either the County Council or individual town/parish councils.

The County Council lighting people state that they would not adopt an individual streetlight at this location as it is not their lighting, and wouldn’t be taking on this sequence of streetlighting from Allerdale as it does not meet their operating standards.

Both authorities state that the future position of streetlights owned by Allerdale BC was far from clear, with no timescale when a decision will be made.

An up to date map of all the streetlighting in the parish owned by Allerdale has been requested.

Three streetlights not working, and several blocked gullies have been reported to the County Council.

A full risk assessment by the Country Council Inclusive Mobility officer has been carried out of the parish, and a works programme instigated to address several areas where dropped kerbs will be installed.

163/12/17 –  Progress reports for information: –

Community led plan – A Community Led Plan steering group meeting has been arranged for 7pm on the 9th January to finalise the CLP. Cllr Bowe agreed to distribute the document prior to the meeting to enable it to be discussed by the steering group members.

St Andrews view development – Vehicles using Matty Lonning & the Village as a short cut to the A595 – Police have been informed will monitor the situation.

Re-routing of the new footpath / Lighting at the top of Matty Lonning. The hard works from the footpath is now complete, the landscaping is currently on going, some damage incurred due to vehicle tracks
Pedestrian protection will be complete in January. New street sign (Matty Lonning) has been ordered together with new grit bin – delivery date will be in January. The entrance sign to the village is to be reinstated (new one) along with the furniture (planters) for the flower beds in early spring. The street lighting will be on the side of the site into the village prior to the site entrance entering the village from the A595. Is currently being installedNew notice board for St Andrew’s View site. Delivery is in January, no firm date for fitting yet.

Site working times are being breached. On several occasions, the road sweeper has been working after the agreed site finishing time to the annoyance of the people in the houses adjacent to Matty Lonning. Story Homes have confirmed (1) that the site manager has spoken to the road sweeping contractor again to reiterate why the site operational hours are there and the importance of them (2) any more breaches and the contract with them will be terminated.

Dust issues.  Blue mesh and the silica covering is still in-situ and functioning. Story Homes are continuing to spray the site on dry days.

Removal of Electricity poles. Overhead lines have now been removed from the development together with one pole at the rear of the Parish Hall. Story Homes have done some levelling will be completed in the spring.

Housing Stock Scorecard – updated as at Monday 20th November 2017:

Properties occupied 15 (22%)

Properties completed 17 (25%)

Properties reserved & sold 33 (48%) four of which are “Discount for Sale”

Affordable housing units:

Discounted properties – Four discounted for sale properties have been reserved / sold.

Rental properties – Thirteen properties (a) nine 2 bed, 3 persons houses (b) four 3 bed, 5 persons houses.
Ten Rental properties reserved by Castles & Coasts Housing Association (CCHA) will be available from January to March 2018. CCHA have reported a number of enquiries – first full advertising campaign will take place first week in January. Interested parties to contact Brenda Hodgson or Jeanette Fuller at CCHA on 01228 635502 or 01228 635500

Thursby Parish Hall – A meeting was held on 13th December, a sub committee meets to finalise the details to apply for Hallmark 2. they believe that we are almost there.

The Story landscaping of ground at back of hall will be looked at in the spring when the weather improves. They agree it is not good enough as it is.

The job description for a caretaker is in draft form by the subcommittee and will                  be reviewed by all the committee for comment.

Thursby School – The school have now broken up for Christmas and the new appointed head of Thursby School, Jayne Williams, takes up the position in January.

Broadband – A second broadband box has been installed in the village but is still not live yet, a move to have 4G coverage across the county is now in doubt.

Sports and Recreation – The committee is currently carrying out a consultation with young people in the village to see what facilities they would like to see on the field.

164/12/17 –  Planning applications

 Received: – None

Decision Notices: – None

165/12/17 – Payments of Accounts

The following payments were authorised by the council: –

  • Clerk’s salary – (Standing Order) – £359.10
  • PAYE – (Standing Order) – £89.80
  • Clerks expenses – £65.00
  • PWLB – £1,719.45
  • Nealhouse Bus Shelter – £2,916.00
  • Parish Hall hire for Community Speed watch training – £12.00



166/12/17 – Accounts

The financial statement as at 30th November 2017 was agreed and signed by the council chair.


167/12/17 – Councillors reports and future agenda items – Allerdale Local Plan part 2 consultation, notice boards, grit bins, formation of council teams.


Date of next meeting – Tuesday 16th January 2017 –  7.30 Thursby Parish Hall




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