September 19th 2017


 Clerk: Jeff Downham,


Tel No 07795484126

Thursby Parish Council meeting

Tuesday 19th September


  Minutes of meeting

 Council Members: Cllrs Wendy Bowe (Chair), Peter Hunter (Vice Chair), Ray McCreadie, Ken Peerless, Chris Haig-Prothero, Tom Girdwood and John Robson.

 Cumbria County Council: Duncan Fairbairn

Allerdale Borough Councillor: Cllr Pat McDonald

 Members of the public: 4

Parish Clerk: Jeff Downham

80/9/17 – Apologies – Cllrs Myra Armstrong and David Pattinson.

81/9/17 – Declaration of interests – Cllr Bowe on item 7, Cllr Peerless on item 9, and Cllr Hunter on item 18.

 82/9/17 – Dispensations – None

 83/9/17 – Minutes of previous meeting – The minutes of the meeting of the 18th July 2017 were discussed and the council resolved to sign them as being a true record of the meeting.

 84/9/17 – Chairs announcements – A Connecting Cumbria broadband event will be held in the parish hall at 7pm on Wednesday 27th September.

The CALC AGM will be held on the 18th November at Carlisle racecourse, guest speaker will be Peter McCall the Police and Crime Commissioner.

85/9/17 – Public participation: – The issue of the cutting of the trees on Greenwood Close, and the community clean-up day of the cut through the estate were raised, with several members of the public wishing to thank the Parish council, and the community volunteers for their support. The condition that the Low Whinnow layby on the A596 had been left in following maintenance work was raised and Cllr Fairbairn agreed to raise this with Connect Roads.

 86/9/17 – Reports from: –

Cumbria County Council – Cllr Fairbairn reported that the initial consultation on changing the restrictions regarding catering service vehicles at the Low Whinnow layby had been favourable, and that it would now go to statutory consultation before going to the local area committee. He stated that 3126 gulley’s had been cleaned across Allerdale, and to ensure all the gulley’s in Thursby parish were being emptied he suggested the completion of a map with those identified gulley’s marked on it.

The council resolved to complete this at the next council meeting.

Allerdale Borough Council– Cllr McDonald reported that the issue of the purple bags collection on the Crofton estate was still being pursued.

 87/9/17 – Jubilee field fence – Councillors discussed whether a right of way towards the Stonehouse Park end of the field had been closed off following completion of the dog proof fencing. A discussion was had as to whether there was a right of way to the wetland area, and the reasons why an access point had not been put in at that location. The sports and recreation committee informed the council that limiting the access points onto the field would help ensure that the that the field was as dog proof as possible.

The council resolved on a majority show of hands to leaving the access points to the field as they currently are.

 88/9/17 – Councillors discussed the grants applications and resolved to grant the following applications.

Thursby Throstle – £480

Sports and Recreation – £500

St Andrews Church – £400

Crofton Social Club – £170

Great North Air Ambulance – £50

Mother and Toddler group – £350

Citizens Advice Bureau – £50

 89/9/17 – County Council Design Guide for planning applications – The council resolved to allow individual councillors to make their responses to the document.

 90/9/17 – Community speed watch – Councillors discussed the information provided by the police, and agreed to request further dates for weekend training.

 91/9/17 – Low Road Lay byes – Cllr Fairbairn informed the council the layby nearest the A595 would be closed off, filled in and grassed and that any drainage work required would be carried out at the same time.

92/9/17 – Grass cutting contract – Councillors discussed the current contract and resolved to start the process of applying for tenders for a new contract from 2018.

93/9/17 – Removal/replacement of street sign Matty Lonning – Councillors resolved to allow the sign to be moved to an angled position to allow better access to the footpath from St Andrews View.

94/9/17 – Wigton Rotary club request to plant crocus bulbs and trees – Following a discussion on both the planting of crocuses, and to planting trees in the village Councillors resolved to support the planting of additional crocus bulbs at the entrances to the village, but asked that more discussion be had regarding locations of any tree planting.

 95/9/17 – Clerks report on actions not covered on the agenda –

Actions from previous meeting: –

Contacted ABC planning and the Environmental Health Dept. regarding the drainage and possible pollution on the Story site.

Arranged for repairs to the bus shelters at Micklethwaite and Crofton.

Completed and returned the CALC survey.

Arranged for the trees to be cut on the path leading to Greenwood Close.

Contacted highways regarding the uneven road surface on the A596 at the Crofton junction.

Ordered new finger post signs with the larger lettering

Clerks update: –

Arrangements made re the Connecting Cumbria broadband event on the 27th September.

Contacted Highways re damage to the verges on Curthwaite Road caused by agricultural machinery.

Arranged with highways to cut the verges on Matty Lonning.,

Arranged with Allerdale to collect waste materiel from the layby on Low Road.

Reported give way sign on Matty Lonning entrance, bus stop sign on A595 near Fairfield junction and the length of the grass at the Thursby roundabout.

Contacted Sign of the Times re the replacement street signs, the order is still being processed, delay due to heavy workload.

96/9/17 –  Progress reports for information: –

Community led plan – Cllr Bowe informed the council that progress had been made on putting then plan together, with a programme of progress being arranged to have a draft copy of the plan ready for the next council meeting.

 St Andrews view development –

Potential gulley flooding.  The issues reporting in July regarding a potential flooding hazard in severe weather conditions due to the fall of the road has now been addressed by Story Homes and the gulley’s are functional.
Dust issues.  Blue mesh and the silica covering is still in-situ and functioning, site is being watered daily as required. The recent wet weather has lessened the nuisance factor; however, it is noted that building sites will generate additional levels of dust in the local vicinity.
Potential for dirty water leaking into Matty Beck. The issues reported in June / July have now been addressed. The pumps and control equipment have been installed and will be commissioned during September. The line and level for the rising main will be completed as the pumps are signed off as operational, the sewage is currently being tankered offsite.
Re-routing of the new footpath at the top of Matty Lonning. Work on the footpath has started, local residents have been made aware of the positioning. The route will be validated by the Story Homes Site Director before it is completed and topped off.  Street lighting will be erected in line with the agreement with the Highways Dept. as will the limited access sign and the grit bin at the top of Matty Lonning
New notice board for St Andrew’s View site – Story Homes have confirmed that they will install a notice board in an appropriate location on St Andrews View development on behalf of the Parish Council.
Removal of Electricity poles. Overhead lines have now been removed from the development together with one pole at the rear of the Parish Hall. Story Homes have backfilled the hole and are arranging to have the site levelled in line with a request from the Parish Hal committee. There is also a metal spike that needs to be removed.

Lay-bye near to the site entrance to St Andrews View development is in a poor state of repair. Story Homes confirmed that the closure of the lay-bye by CCC will have no impact on the site access.

 Housing Stock Scorecard as at 1st Sep:

    • Properties completed – 7 (10%)
    • Properties sold – Currently 14 have been reserved (20%)
    • Properties occupied – Currently 4 Properties have been occupied (6%)
    • Affordable housing units – update

–        Discounted properties, first batch will go on sale in November, December 2017.
Four low cost units will be available at a price of 65% of the Open Market Value.

–        Rental properties will be available from January, February 2018.
Thirteen units in total will be available.

    • Story Homes schedule 106 commitments:

–        Prior to the occupancy of the 20th dwelling a contribution of £13,427 to Allerdale BC for offsite play space to be used for upgrading of the Jubilee Fields play area.

–        Prior to the occupancy of the 30th dwelling a contribution of £223,791 to Cumbria CC to construct a new classroom at Thursby School.

–        Prior to the occupancy of the 60th dwelling a contribution of £71,250 to Cumbria CC for secondary school’s transport over a five-year period.

Thursby Parish Hall – The committee had met twice since the last council meeting and a volunteer was still being sought to take responsibility for the Arts Out West programme, with a risk that without one there would be no arts programme for the year.

Thursby School – Northing to report.

97/9/17 –  Planning applications Received: –

 Received: – 2/2017/0357 Proposed new dwelling Plot 9 Evening Hill, Thursby.

Circulated during the summer break  and no obections to the application following comments from councillors.

 HOU/2017/0158 Propossed two storey side and single rear extension, 65 Shaw Wood Road, Thursby, Carlisle.

Circulated during the summer break  and no obections to the application following comments from councilllors.

HOU/2017/0194 – Side extension and front porch – 40 School Road, Thursby – Councillors resolved not to object to the application but to raise the issue of on street parking at this  location.

Application for tree preservation order works – Birtley House, Thursby – Councillors resolved not to object.

 Decision Notices: – HOU/2017/0158 – Full plans approved dated 29/08/2017.

98/9/17 – Payments of Accounts

The following payments were authorised by the council: –

  • Clerk’s salary – (Standing Order) – £359.10
  • PAYE – (Standing Order) – £89.80
  • ISS – £936.92
  • Clerks expenses – £114.25
  • Printer Ink – £59.38
  • Vidahost website – £125.28
  • Alan Greggory, maintenance at work bus shelters – £40.00
  • BDO – £240.00
  • Parish Hall room hire – £12.00
  • Branch removal, Greenwood Close – £580
  • Defibrillator signs – £112.80


99/9/17 – Annual audit report – Councillors resolved to accept the findings of the annual report.


100/9/17 – Accounts

The financial statement as at 31st August 2017 was agreed and signed by the council chair.


101/7/17 – Councillors reports and future agenda items– Additional street signage, councillor training, Police attendance at meetings.


Date of next meeting – Tuesday 17th October 2017 –  7.30 Thursby Parish Hall




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