21st March 2017



Clerk: Jeff Downham,

Email: thursbypc@gmail.com

Tel No 07795484126

Thursby Parish Council meeting

Tuesday 21st March



Draft Minutes of meeting

Council Members: Cllrs Wendy Bowe (Chair), Peter Hunter (Vice Chair) Ken Peerless, Ray McCreadie, John Robson, Myra Armstrong.

 Cumbria County Council: Cllr Duncan Fairbairn

Allerdale Borough Councillor: Cllr Pat McDonald

Members of the public: Two

 Parish Clerk: Jeff Downham

404/3/17 – Apologies – Cllrs Tom Girdwood and David Pattinson.

 405/3/17 – Declaration of interests – Cllr Bowe Sports and Recreation

 406/3/17 – Dispensations – None

 407/3/17 – Minutes of previous meeting – The minutes of the meeting of the 21st February 2017 were discussed and the council resolved to sign them as being a true record of the meeting.

 408/3/17 – Chairs announcements – None

409/3/17 – Public participation – Comment was made on the amount of litter in Matty Beck, the amount of litter being left by the contractors on the jubilee field, the ownership of the damaged fence on the cut by the garage onto Shawk crescent, and the condition of the flower tubs on Low road.

The council resolved to contact the school and the sports and recreation committee regarding the litter problem, enquire with the garage owner regarding the damaged fence on the cut through, and to contact the gardening club regarding the flower tubs on Low road.

410/3/17 – Reports from: –

 Allerdale Borough Council – Cllr McDonald informed the council that she had been in contact with Story homes regarding the provision of affordable housing in the St Andrews development, and that no housing provider had yet been appointed, she had stressed that when this is known the parish council should be informed. She also informed the council that Allerdale Borough Council would no longer be providing free dogs bags due to budget restrictions.

 Cumbria County Council – Cllr Fairbairn informed the council that the responsible authority for the Low Whinnow lay by was Connect Roads, and that he had raised with the assistant director of highways the complaints about the use of the layby by heavy goods vehicles, and was awaiting his response. He stated that the enforcement of the 2-hour parking restriction was difficult to enforce outside of normal office hours and encouraged residents to gather photographic evidence of the times vehicles were abusing the parking restrictions. Regarding the lay byes on Low Road, Cllr Fairbairn had spoken to the haulier Eric Nicholson whose vehicles regularly park in the lay byes, and he was to advise his drivers not to park at these locations. Comment was made that Story vehicles accessing the St Andrews development were using one of the lay byes due to the access to the site not being wide enough. Safety works on the Thursby roundabout are due to start sometime in May addressing several issues designed to improve driver behaviour at this location. The A595 safety study carried out last year is about to be published.

 Cumbria PolicePCSO Irving offered her apologies for the meeting providing the following information Crime figures can be obtained via the Cumbria Police Website:

Alternatively use the following link:


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For road traffic collision data please follow the below link (search by post code as it defaults to Gateshead): –


 A search of the website showed no incidents of crime or road traffic collisions for Thursby parish.

411/3/17 – Low Whinnow lay-by A596 and Low Road lay-byes – Cllr Fairbairn addressed these two issues and will report back to the council following a response by the assistant director of Highways.

The parish council resolved to visit the two lay byes on Low Road to assess their condition prior to the next council meeting.

 412/3/17 – Speed awareness stickers – Following circulation of an initiative to purchase 30mph stickers to be attached to resident’s wheelie bins, the council resolved to take this no further.

413/3/17 –  Electoral review of Allerdale – councillor’s commented regarding proposals to change electoral boundaries that the impact on Thursby Parish with the merging with the Marsh ward would make little difference to the workings of the council.

 414/3/17 – St Andrews View development –

 Affordable Housing – Story have not yet appointed a registered provider to manage the affordable homes.

The council resolved to advertise that the council could keep a record of those parishioners who would be interested in occupying one of the houses identified for social housing, once a housing authority had been appointed, but stressed that applicants would still have to go through the relevant selection process once the houses become available.

 Laybys are still in a poor state. – Story confirmed that they have reviewed the situation and are satisfied that the damage to the lay-by verge opposite to the St Andrew’s View compound access cannot be attributed to vehicles coming to and from the site.  The lay by is used regularly by a range of vehicles including lorries, all of which have the potential to cause damage. In addition, the damage to the verge was present before we started on the site.

Re-routing of the new footpath at the top of Matty Lonning – Story have been advised that Andrew Grainger’s legal people have confirmed that the grassed area at the front of his property adjacent to Matty Lonning is part of his plot.  Story has been advised and requested to re-route the footpath. Still awaiting confirmation of revised plan for footpath.

Damaged verges adjacent are still in a poor state – Story have been requested to make good. Situation has stabilised

 Vehicles using Matty Lonning & the Village as a short cut to the A595 – Story have erected two “no left turn signs” at the two site exits forcing traffic to turn right onto low road & use the Low Road junction with the A595.
Situation has stabilised, monitor going forward

415/3/17 – Community Plan update – Cllr Bowe informed the council that the health and leisure group meeting had not attracted many residents and a further date would be identified for this meeting. She made reference to a survey having been carried out by a resident on school road of traffic movements in and out of the estate, and suggested that this could be included in the transport group of the community led plan, and thanked the resident for her work on this.

 416/3/17 – Village Green event 15th April – Following a discussion regarding the implications to the council on this, the council resolved to allow the event to take place and to request a copy of the insurance cover from the school.

417/3/17 – Damage to Paddocks fence – Following a report of damage to the council owned fence along the entrance to the Paddocks, the council resolved to appoint Cumbria Paving as the contractor to do the repairs from two estimates provided.

418/3/17 – Nealhouse bus shelter – The bus infrastructure officer has now returned to work and the site visit that was previously scheduled for January will now take place in early April.

419/3/17 –  Dog bags – Considering the decision by Allerdale to no longer provide free dog bags, the council resolved not to return to supplying bags for the dispenser in Thursby village.

420/3/17 – Councillors responsibilities/ training and communication – Councillors training is to take place on the 23rd March with Cumbria Association of Local Councils.

The council resolved to hold a separate meeting to discuss areas of responsibility and communication.

421/3/17 – Application for new councillor – Following a discussion by the council regarding the application by Mr Haig-Prothero the council resolved to appoint him as a new councillor.

422/3/17 –  Other reports: –

Clerks report: –

Actions from previous meeting: –

  • ·         Letter to Maggie Howard thanking her for her work as a councillor for 3 years.
  • ·         Contacted highways re reflector marker posts approaching Thursby junction and notified stagecoach of leaning bus stop sign.
  • ·         Advertise councillor vacancy in Throstle.
  • ·         Contacted Cllr MacDonald re housing list as identified by Cllr McCreadie.

 Clerks update: – Arrangements for delivery of Thursby signs, forwarded the signed memorandum of agreement for installation of the 3 sign posts in the village, the contractor for the work on the footpath can install the signposts.

Forwarded application for grant to work on the highway re the footpath across the green, that has now been approved and the contractor for the work notified, awaiting a date when he can start the work.

Carried out a 999-test call regarding a fault identified on the defibrillator, all now in order.

Contacted highways re fault on the Speed Indicator Device.

This will be the last annual review carried out by the accountancy firm BDO, appointed by the now defunct the Audit Commissions, future reviews will be carried out by one of three accountancy firms appointed jointly by NALC, and the governments Public Sector Audit Appointments (PSAA) agency. Who will carry out Cumbria’s reviews, and what form that review will take is not yet clear, but will become clearer as the year progresses.

Thursby Parish Hall – The hall committee met on the 8th March and have just submitted the relevant documentation for stage one the hallmark award.

 Broadband – The take up in Allerdale of superfast broadband is only 40% resulting in the second phase funding to provide broadband to the more rural areas i.e. Crofton, not yet being available.

 Thursby School – Nothing to report.

423/3/17 –  Planning applications Received: –

  2/2017/0031 – Story Homes – application for variation of condition 2 on applicaiton 2/2016/0070. Revision to housetypes, cyle/ foot path, road hierarchy and surfcaing and footways to plots facing Low Lane.
   Land at Matty Lonning Thursby Carlisle
  Amended Plans – House Type Booklets

Boston and Warwick House Types

The council resolved to comment on the route of the footpath on Low Road.


HOU/2017/0052 – Two story side extension 21 Stonehouse Park, Thursby

The council resolved to comment on the lack of parking provision.


424/3/17 – Payments of Accounts

Authorisation required for the following payments: –

  • Clerk’s salary – (Standing Order) – £346.27
  • PAYE – (Standing Order) – £86.60
  • Clerks expenses – £78.50 – 472



425/3/17 – Accounts

The financial statement as at 28th February 2017 was agreed and signed by the council chair and reconciled with the CBS bank statement number 98.


Date of next meeting – Tuesday 18th April 2017 –  7.30 Thursby Parish Hall

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