February 21st 2017


 Clerk: Jeff Downham,

Email: thursbypc@gmail.com

Tel No 07795484126


Thursby Parish Council meeting

Tuesday 21st February


 Draft Minutes of meeting


Council Members: Cllrs Wendy Bowe (Chair), Peter Hunter (Vice Chair) Ken Peerless, Ray McCreadie, Tom Girdwood, John Robson, David Pattinson, Myra Armstrong.

 Cumbria County Council: Cllr Duncan Fairbairn

Allerdale Borough Councillor:

 Members of the public: One

 Parish Clerk: Jeff Downham

 383/2/17 – Apologies – None

 384/2/17 – Declaration of interests – Cllrs Bowe and Pattinson Sports and Recreation

 385/2/17 – Dispensations – None

 386/2/17 – Minutes of previous meeting – The minutes of the meeting of the 17th January 2017 were discussed, the council held a vote on the accuracy of the minutes, with a majority voting to resolve them as being a true record of the meeting.

 387/2/17 – Chairs announcements – Cllr Bowe informed the council of the decision of Cllr Howard to step down from the council, she thanked the councillor for the three years’ service she had given to the council and wished her well for the future. Clerk to send a letter to her thanking her for her service to the council.

388/2/17 – Exclusion of the public – The council resolved to exclude members of the public from item 22 as it would include matters of a sensitive nature.

389/2/17 – Reports from: –

Cumbria County Council – Cllr Fairbairn informed the council that he had had a report of the 2-hour restriction signs either being removed, or turned around at Low Whinnow layby on the A595, this had now been addressed and he had asked the on-street parking teams to visit the area to enforce the parking restrictions, he stated that closing laybys was not an option. He stated that the accidents statistics for the A595 had fallen. Discussion was had about the removal of the bus stop on the A595, and the condition of the one opposite, and the removal of the reflective marker posts approaching the entrance to Thursby from the A595 at the Fairfield junction. He stated that he had asked for the Thursby roundabout to be re-surfaced. He agreed to contact highways regarding ownership of the laybys on Low Road.

The council resolved to write the Stagecoach regarding the bus stops, and to Cumbria County Council regarding the reflective marker posts. Councillor Fairbairn to check with highways re ownership of the laybys.  

 Allerdale Borough Council – No report

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 The website showed one incident of theft on Matty Lonning, one incident of anti-social behaviour in Thursby and one road traffic collision on the A596 on the 21st January.

 390/2/17 – Councillors vacancy – The council resolved to advertise the vacancy in the Throstle.

 391/2/17 – St Andrews view development update – Following discussion the below issues still cause for concern:

  • Affordable Housing – Story have not yet appointed a registered housing provider to manage the affordable homes therefore difficult for Thursby parishioners to apply in a timely manner and get their applications vetting.
  • Laybys are still in a poor state. – Story confirmed that they have reviewed the situation and are satisfied that the damage to the lay-by verge opposite to the St Andrew’s View compound access cannot be attributed to vehicles coming to and from the site.  The lay by is used regularly by a range of vehicles including lorries, all of which have the potential to cause damage. In addition, the damage to the verge was present before they started on the site.
    Damaged verges adjacent are still in a poor state and Story have been requested to make good.
  • Vehicles using Matty Lonning & the Village as a short cut to the A595 – Story have erected two “no left turn signs” at the two site exits forcing traffic to turn right onto low road and use the Low Road junction with the A595.  Sgt Gillian Atkinson from Cumbria Police confirmed that the “access only” signage is all correct and is enforceable by Police. Several incidents for vehicles have been reported to the police during the month and one drivers has been spoken to.
    TPC to monitor during February.
  • Rerouting of the footpath Story at the top of Matty Lonning – Story have been advised that Andrew Grainger’s legal people have confirmed that the grassed area at the front of his property adjacent to Matty Lonning is part of his plot.  Story has been advised & requested to re-route the footpath. Still awaiting confirmation of revised plan for footpath.

The council resolved to contact other parish councils about the parish council holding a list of those residents wishing to apply for social housing on the estate, 

392/2/17 – Community plan update – Cllr Bowe outlined to the council progress on the working group sessions with the next focus group being the 28th February on crime, health and leisure, following which a further meeting of the steering group will be arranged.

393/1/17 –  British Heart Foundation defibrillator update – The defibrillator is now installed and fully functioning in the telephone kiosk, defibrillator signs are still awaited to attach to the kiosk. A training session took place on the 7th February where 10 members of the public received training in the use of the defibrillator.

 394/2/17 –  Allerdale Local Plan (Part 2) Site allocations preferred options consultation. – The council resolved to comment that Thursby’s housing need should be small scale developments of infill sites only. If a site must be developed, then site 1/THU/007A/R as outlined in the document would be the councils preferred option, but with reservations as to the impact on traffic infrastructure and schools.

 395/2/17 – Jubilee field development update – a representative from the sports and recreation committee presented a report, previously circulated to councillors, on the position the development to date and going forward, he was asked to consider what actions would be required to maintain the wetland area at the bottom end of the field.

The council resolved to work with the committee to develop a travel plan.

 396/2/17 – Nealhouse bus shelter update – Following the initial contact with CCC regarding the positioning of a new bus shelter, agreement has not yet been reached between the county council and Connect Roads, it is hoped that this will be reached in the coming weeks.

397/2/17 – Home Group estate and condition of garages – In line with discussions at the last council meeting regarding removal of asbestos from garages, that has now been removed. Points still to note:

  • Plot 17 – Not much different from last inspection on 28th January, Area needs deep cleaned to ensure no asbestos debris left on site. Plinth needs to be repaired before it is re-let.
  • Plot 24 – Looks to be ok

398/2/17 – Councillors responsibilities/ training and communication – The councillors training has been arranged for 7pm on the 23rd March. A list of possible areas of responsibility was drawn up and agreed in principle, this will be circulated to councillors for further discussion at the next meeting. Discussion was had around the content on the thursbyonline web site and the council resolved to hold a training session for those groups who might benefit from having the ability to upload community information.

 399/2/17 –  

Clerks Report for items not on agenda:

Actions from previous meeting: –

  • ·         Contacted highways re 30 mph on Low Road re Story’s, response from Philip Groom, Traffic Management Officer confirms that the 30mph limit will be revised and extended to cover up to the new access to the new estate.
  • Dogs on leads signs on approach to Jubilee field.  Contacted Richard Johnston who states that there is a sign at the main entrance, but agrees that it might be better to have another at the entrance from Stonehouse Park into the field. However, it may be worth waiting until they have completed their works on the pavilion etc. before putting these up, so that they can ensure they are sited in the most appropriate place.
  • Contacted Allerdale Environmental health/HSE re asbestos. Following a conversation with environmental health at Allerdale, who stated that they had no power to address the asbestos issue on private land, it was then reported to the HSE, the HSE contacted Home Group and pointed out their responsibilities regarding dangerous waste.
  • Contacted highways re repeater signs Curthwaite Road, response from Philip Groom, Traffic Management Officer that the unlit area is already covered by 30 mph repeater signs and that they are unable to add them in areas that are street lit, however he will re-assess them when next in the area and feed back to the council.

Clerks update:  – Contacted Highways re permit for the dropped kerb and work on the path across the village green, which will cost £230. The application together with £230 must be forwarded to Highways before the permit will be granted and the work commenced.

Arrangements with highways re new direction signs for Thursby, a memorandum of action was required and has now been completed and returned. A site visit to show the exact location of the signs has now taken place and a map produced showing the locations. The signs are due to be ready by the end of the month.

Following a request to establish the current position of the first responders it now appears that they are in the process of being disbanded. Only one member remains. Two new volunteers would mean they could still carry on but lack of volunteers has been their downfall.

Following a report to CCC of the uneven flagstones at the post box in Crofton, they have now ben relayed evenly.

Thursby Parish Hall – The parish hall committee met on the 8th February and a new projector has just been purchased.

Broadband – Nothing to report.

 Thursby School – No report


400/2/17 Planning

Applications: –

2/2017/0052 – Advertisement consent for 4 sales flags, sales cabin facia, visitor parking sign, 5 connecting hoardings and 1 illuminated totem sign – Story Homes – no objections

2/2017/0031 – Application for variation of condition 2 on application 2/2016/0070 to amend house types. – Story Homes – no objections

Planning Decision Notices: –

HOU/2016/0078 – Proposed first floor side extensions and alterations, and reconfiguration of roof line at 68 East Park, Crofton – full plans approved.


401/2/17 – Payments of Accounts

Authorisation required for the following payments: –

  • Clerk’s salary – (Standing Order) – £346.27
  • PAYE – (Standing Order) – £86.60
  • Clerks expenses – £78.50
  • County Council permit for works on the Thursby village green – £230.00

402/2/17 – Accounts

The financial statement as at 31st January 2017 was agreed and signed by the council chair.

403/2/17 – Public participation –The following issues were raised: – Dog fouling outside the school, all dog owners carry dog bags, poor mobile phone signal, no housing association identified for the social housing element of the Story development and a suggestion that photographs of councillors be displayed in the parish hall.

 Date of next meeting – Tuesday 21st March 2017 –  7.30 Thursby Parish Hall

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